Billie Eilish first guest on Miss Me? with Lily Allen and Miquita Oliver - PodcastingToday

Lily Allen and Miquita Oliver regularly chat with each other across the Atlantic in their show called Miss Me? Their latest episode had an exciting guest - the worldwide pop sensation, Billie Eilish.

This week's unique Monday's Listen B*tch! has Billie responding to inquiries from listeners related to the subject of Ghosts.

She has a conversation with Lily and Miquita regarding the experience of being 'ghosted', the difficulties she faced in maintaining friendships after gaining fame, and how Lily's song "Smile" motivated Billie to create new connections.

When asked about her experience of being ghosted, Billie recounted a recent incident that took place in December. She described it as "crazy" and the most extreme instance of ghosting she had ever encountered. Billie even began to wonder if the person who had ghosted her had actually passed away, due to their complete disappearance from her life.

I had known this person for many years and we made a plan to meet up. They gave me their address and we agreed to meet at 3pm, but they never showed up and I never heard from them again. I was shocked and couldn't believe it. This person is a coward and has a small-minded mentality.

She expresses her disbelief as the person in question is someone she has been acquainted with for a long time and still, there has been no communication via text messages since then.

When Billie achieved fame, she encountered a difficulty of losing acquaintances, apart from her closest friend Zoe, with whom she has been pals since the age of two. This was a tough situation for her.

She expresses that she harbored negative feelings because she didn't experience emotions in a way that satisfied her when she was young. She argues that her feelings back then were not necessarily genuine as she probably wouldn't uphold them now. At that time, everything appeared to be going perfectly for her, and she was receiving several favors with ease. She even had a bunch of friends who worked under her, but she had difficulty comprehending that they were her subordinates, not real friends.

As she turned 20, she surveyed her surroundings and realized that all the individuals present were her employees, and significantly older than herself. Unexpectedly, one of her closest friends who also happened to work with her, abruptly resigned and refused to speak to her.

"And that made me understand that this is a profession and the individuals are not really individuals. Once they leave, they may never see me again. This realization led me to the thought that I could actually be entirely alone," she expressed.

As a result, she began to distance herself from her colleagues and struggled with maintaining friendly relationships with them. Her fear of loss and deep-seated abandonment issues compounded the situation, making it difficult for her to handle social interactions with ease.

In the past, I used to rely solely on romantic relationships for companionship and friendship. Even if I wasn't fully invested in the relationship, I clung onto it because I felt like I had no one else. But I realized that true friendships are essential and worth investing in. So, I started putting effort into building and fostering friendships, both new and old. About a year ago, I reconnected with a group of old friends and now, I am fortunate to have a wide network of supportive and caring friends.

Billie continues by saying that she now has a team with her! She expresses how happy she is about it and even mentions that it is the best thing that has ever happened to her. Not too long ago, she attended Coachella and had a great time. However, after leaving a party, her friends noticed that something was off with her. They asked if she was okay, and she said that she was, but later on, she broke down and cried.

"They asked me what was happening, and I replied by saying that I have buddies whom I adore so much. It's been a while since I had good friends around me, so I broke into tears. The reason for shedding tears was due to the fact that I am now experiencing true friendship again."

She concedes that she would struggle without her companions and that camaraderie is the most valuable aspect of her existence.

It's quite intriguing and ironic that in ‘Smile’, the line that reads "with a little help from my friends, I found the light at the end of the tunnel" struck a chord with you. It's amusing because you didn't have any friends back then, and it made you emotional to hear those words.

I recall wishing to have that same feeling and I desire to hear this song that I can connect with on a personal level. When I hear the line about friends, I want to think to myself, "My friends helped me get through a tough period as well."

The complete installment of Miss Me? is currently accessible on BBC Sounds. Give it a listen!